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In the Clubhouse: The Power of Voice & Communication with Dan Friedman – Part 2

March 23, 2022 by Jodi Krangle

“You set the tone for your podcast by how you sound and how you interact with the audience. So there are a lot of elements to it, you know, obviously preparation and planning and practice, all those things.” — Dan Friedman

This week continues our Clubhouse discussion as voiceover artist and sound engineer Dan Friedman answers questions about voice training, keeping listeners engaged, and overcoming stage fright.

As always, if you have any questions for my guest, you’re welcome to reach out through the links in the show notes. If you have questions for me, just visit www.audiobrandingpodcast.com where you’ll find all sorts of ways to get in touch. Plus, subscribing to the newsletter (on the www.audiobrandingpodcast.com webpage) will let you know when the new podcasts are available.

An Audio-Driven World

We continue the Clubhouse chat by talking about how subtle changes to pitch and tone can change a listener’s impression of your voice, and the challenges and successes that artists coming from different audio industries, such as radio and lecturing, can find in voiceover work. “Because we are in such an audio-driven world now,” Dan says, “it is really important that if, especially if you’re running a podcast and you want more listeners, or you want listeners to stick with you, you have to be compelling enough that they are going to want to continue to listen and to tune in every week.”

Getting Out of a Rut

Dan warns us about some of the traps of voice rehearsal, how easy it can be to get stuck in a loop of negative self-criticism when listening to your own voice, and some creative ways to break out of that vicious circle. “One of the most fun and extreme things to just really get out of your rut,” he suggests, “if you realize you’re in a rut, is to do your script as a cartoon character.” He explains that once you’ve done so and then immediately switch back to your regular voice, you’ll probably find that the performance feels fresh again and you can jump back into it with a different energy.

They Want to Hear You

“If you think about it,” Dan says, “communication is a connection between somebody making sound and somebody listening to sound, and if you’re trying to make sound and spread that connection out to a hundred people, that connection’s going to be pretty weak.” We wrap the Clubhouse chat up with a look at the challenges of public speaking and different strategies for overcoming stage fright, such as imagining an individual that you’re speaking to or even focusing on one person in the audience rather than trying to talk to everyone at once. “Most of the time when you are up there speaking to a roomful of people,” he assures us, “those people are there because they want to hear you.”

Episode Summary

How inflection can change the impression you make
Keeping your listeners engaged
Tips for breaking out of a voice performance rut
Public speaking and overcoming stage fright

Connect with Dan:

Website: https://sound4vo.com/

Connect with Dan Friedman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danfriedmanvo

Follow Dan Friedman on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Sound4VO/

Follow Dan Friedman on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanFriedmanVO

The Power of Sound club on Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/club/the-power-of-sound/

Stay tuned for part two of our Clubhouse chat next week as we talk about how inflections can affect the way your voice is perceived, some of the challenges that people coming into voiceover from other industries might face, and how adopting a cartoon voice can help break you out of a rut.

Get your complimentary mini e-book and learn how to create your personalized and branded audio branding strategy with my Top Five Tips for Implementing an Intentional Audio Strategy.

Do you need a voice talent for your next project? Visit my voice-over website to find out more about how my voice can help you with your audio brand. You can also subscribe to the Audio Branding Podcast on YouTube to watch the show’s latest episodes.

Please leave the Audio Branding Podcast a written review or a spoken review so others can find the show on their favorite podcast player!

This interview episode was very skillfully made to sound beautiful by the talented Humberto Franco.

In the Clubhouse: The Power of Voice & Communication with Dan Friedman – Part 1

March 16, 2022 by Jodi Krangle

“When we’re talking about audio-only formats, it’s especially important that you capture your audience using your voice and it should be impactful so that they tune in and want to continue listening. It only takes seven seconds for somebody to decide they want to change the station, whether that be a song they like or don’t like or something that they’re hearing that they’re not liking.” – Dan Friedman

Using your voice to communicate isn’t as easy as it sounds. So what do you do if you feel your voice is letting you down? Would you like some personal techniques to help you improve how you sound and your confidence in speaking? Then this is the right podcast for you. I recorded an excellent Clubhouse discussion with Dan Friedman, an expert in the field of public speaking who’s certified in the Roger Love Voice Method. Those of us in the voice-over industry already know Dan as an accomplished audio engineer, but he’s also a singer, voice actor, and voice coach, and I’ll be having a more in-depth interview with him a little later on. So settle back and let yourself be a fly on the wall as we discuss the power of using your voice for more effective communication.

A few things to note. First, I was hearing and answering people a little ahead of when the audio was being recorded. That’s why my occasional comments are slightly out of sync: it didn’t sound that way at the time. And, just so you know, everyone in the room was aware that it was being recorded and would be released in a future podcast episode. To those who raised their hands to participate in the conversation: thank you. When you asked for advice, you helped everyone understand the issues better. So well done! I’ll have more of these types of discussions in the future – they’re on Wednesdays at 2 PM Eastern Time – so keep a lookout for the schedule of upcoming events in the Clubhouse club, The Power of Sound.

The Sound of Your Voice

We begin the chat with a talk about ways to build confidence in our speaking, and how awkward just hearing our own voice can be at first. “The lack of confidence,” Dan explains, “usually comes from people hearing their recorded voice for the first time and not really realizing how they actually sound.” He suggests ways of breaking out of a monotone, such as singing just a little, and listening carefully to the natural rhythm of your voice so you’ll know how to change things up. “Everybody needs to be able to communicate effectively these days,” he says, “especially through audio only.”

Going Over the Top

“Voiceover,” Dan tells us, “is really kind of you at your very best in whatever emotion you’re in.” We discuss the value of tone and pitch, and how well a monotone voice can work (or NOT work) without visual cues. Dan notes that in audio directing, emotions are often a little over the top, and he answers questions about improving your voice, becoming comfortable with it, and the trick to understanding how you’re being perceived by your listener. “Getting to like the sound of your voice really does take time.”

Imagine You’re a Balloon

Dan takes a question from Lisa about the importance of matching your listener’s tone, and tips on how to avoid the glottal stop that many of us have when it comes to vowel sounds. We also talk about how to overcome vocal fry by breathing and speaking through your diaphragm, as if you’re a balloon. “When you breathe, you should be breathing in through your nose as often as possible and not through your mouth… one of the biggest reasons that we should be breathing in through our nose more than our mouth is because our nose is designed to moisturize the air coming through the vocal cords.”

Hitting the High Notes

Next, we talk about singing, and Joe asks about how men can learn to be more comfortable with the higher registers of the human voice. Dan offers his advice on improving your vocal range by practicing speaking with both a higher and lower pitch, and how developing a more flexible tone can lead to a more versatile voice performance. “Pitch is a huge tool for emphasis,” he says, “and as a voice actor, we need to use pitch to emphasize words and phrases, and as humans, we need to do that too.”

Episode Summary

Becoming comfortable with your voice
How to speak with more inflection
Expressing emotion through pure audio
Speaking and breathing through your diaphragm
Using pitch for a more flexible performance

Connect with Dan:

Website: https://sound4vo.com/

Connect with Dan Friedman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danfriedmanvo

Follow Dan Friedman on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Sound4VO/

Follow Dan Friedman on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DanFriedmanVO

The Power of Sound club on Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/club/the-power-of-sound/

Get your complimentary mini e-book and learn how to create your personalized and branded audio branding strategy with my Top Five Tips for Implementing an Intentional Audio Strategy.

Please leave the Audio Branding Podcast a written review or a spoken review so others can find the show on their favorite podcast player!

This interview episode was very skillfully made to sound beautiful by the talented Humberto Franco.

In The Clubhouse: The Power of Audio Branding – Part 2

February 16, 2022 by Jodi Krangle

“Doing audio branding very often has similarities to coaching. It’s always a change management process and it’s also iterative, so it’s almost repeating the same procedures a couple of times until you get closer and closer to something that everybody agrees is ‘okay, that’s the goal.’ And by the way, goals are the most important thing. If it’s not clear where you want to go, what you need, and why you are doing this, if you just follow the next hype and say we need a sound logo just like our competitor, then you’re lost, then you’re just wasting time and money.” — Cornelius Ringe

This week continues our Clubhouse discussion as Lauri Domnick, Jeanna Isham, Steve Keller, Shez Merha, Jack Monson, and Cornelius Ringe lead a variety of questions and comments.

A Trustworthy Sound

The second half begins as our panel reveals what questions they ask clients to learn who they are from an audio perspective. Jeanna tells us about her work with REI and how she used natural sounds to focus their outdoor branding, while Lauri discusses the challenge of turning more abstract concepts like trustworthiness into something we can hear and recognize. Shez focuses on better aligning the audio to the company’s brand, and Jack switches things around with a simple question that can have surprisingly candid and helpful answers: “if you and I were going to take a road trip,” he asks clients, “what three artists would you want to have?”

The Voice of the Brand

Steve takes a different, more psychological approach to learning more about a client’s potential sonic profile, one that sparks a discussion about the archetypes of sound, what the brand might be like if it were a person. “If the brand were to talk to you,” he asks, “what would the brand’s voice sound like? Is it male, is it female, is it neither of those? If the brand was going to give you a playlist, what would be on their Pandora playlist?”

The Soundtrack of Your Life

Cornelius offers a thought-provoking reply as he talks instead about focusing on the language of sound, a language that’s often unfamiliar to his clients, and helping them find the right words to consider the question and develop their own answers. Alex joins in to note that clients don’t always have a good answer, particularly in the business world where opinions and priorities can clash; as Steve puts it, “the work is fraught with the need for

diplomacy.” Cheryl, a podcaster and voice talent, takes the stage with a question she always likes to ask: if there was a soundtrack to your life, what would be on it and why? The answers, she notes, are often surprising, and always revealing.

Episode Summary

Looking at company brands from an audio perspective
Considering brands and sounds as archetypes
Learning the language of both sound and business
Listening to the soundtrack of your life

Get your complimentary mini e-book and learn how to create your personalized and branded audio branding strategy with my Top Five Tips for Implementing an Intentional Audio Strategy.

Please leave the Audio Branding Podcast a written review or a spoken review so others can find the show on their favorite podcast player!

This interview episode was very skillfully made to sound beautiful by the talented Humberto Franco.

Connect with the Panelists:

Jeanna Isham’s website: https://www.dreamrproductions.com/

Shez Merha’s website: https://the194group.com/

Cornelius Ringe’s website: https://www.wesound.de/en/

Steve Keller’s website: https://www.sxmmedia.com/

Connect with Lauri Domnic on LinkedIn: https://fi.linkedin.com/in/lauridomnick

Jack Monson’s website: https://www.socialgeekradio.com/

The Power of Sound club on Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/club/the-power-of-sound

In The Clubhouse: The Power of Audio Branding – Part 1

February 9, 2022 by Jodi Krangle

“So it’s really no surprise that, you know, it’s back in the driver’s seat now, when everyone is really fighting and yearning for how to capture attention, even a little bit of attention, from an exhausted and overwhelmed and overstimulated population base globally. So I think it applies itself to media, to what you’re eating, in a restaurant experience, a shopping experience, really across the entire 360, or integrated marketing, if you want to speak like a marketer, that whole kind of overarching back row strategy from everywhere your brand is going to live. There are likely ways to embed audio into those instances in a meaningful way without adding more ‘noise’ to the world.” — Shez Mehra

For those of you who don’t know, I host regular weekly Clubhouse rooms on Wednesdays at 2 PM Eastern Time. We talk about all sorts of things related to sound, including voiceovers, public speaking, podcasting, music, and, of course, audio branding. We also cover things like Voice AI, Sound in Social Media, and even Audio NFTs. This particular recording, made with the permission of everyone who participated, is from a Clubhouse room called The Power of Audio Branding in my Power of Sound club. We had a number of stellar panelists, including Jeanna Isham, Shez Merha, Cornelius Ringe and Steve Keller, all of whom have also been guests on this podcast with episodes all their own. Lauri Domnick, from Bauer Media in Finland, and Jack Monson, from Social Geek Radio, also joined us.

The audio is presented as it was heard in the moment, so it won’t be perfect, and there’s a bit of a lag, so sometimes it might sound like people are taking a while to respond while other times it sounds like I’m talking over them. That isn’t how it sounded at the time, and hopefully won’t be too distracting for you as you listen. But this discussion should give you a good look at the fascinating world of audio branding from many different perspectives, and at why it’s a topic and discipline that’s becoming more important all the time. I also want to thank everyone that came up on stage to join in, ask questions, and make comments. Your participation made this discussion even better. The lesson is clear: if you aren’t paying attention to the sound of your brand, you’ll ultimately be missing out.

If you have any questions for the panelists, you’re welcome to reach out through the links in these show notes. If you have questions for me, just visit www.audiobrandingpodcast.com where you’ll find all sorts of ways to get in touch. Plus, subscribing to the newsletter (on the www.audiobrandingpodcast.com webpage) will let you know when the new podcasts are available.

What is Audio Branding?

We start off the discussion with a look at just what audio branding means for each of our panelists, and what makes it such a powerful marketing tool. Jeanna explains the subtle difference between audio and sonic branding while Lauri talks about its potential for stirring our deepest memories and feelings. Jack joins the conversation and agrees about the power of audio impressions. “There’s something more magical about audio memories stimulating something from the back of your mind, from earlier in life, childhood, whatever, there’s something more powerful about audio than anything visual.”

Filling the Gaps

Shez joins the group and talks about the insights his career as a DJ and musician have given him about the power of sound and how often it’s neglected in the business world. “It could be a song,” as he puts it, “it could be your mother’s voice, it could be the narrator from a show that you grew up on. There are so many ways in which we as human beings just inherently connect with sounds and audio.” Steve and Cornelius arrive and offer their perspectives on the untapped potential of audio branding. “Audio branding for me also is about filling the gap in brand communication,” Cornelius says. “There’s a huge gap in the potential of brand communication, and that is audio.”

Sounds in the Brain

Alex, a researcher for Massive Music who specializes in neuroscience, takes the stage first to point out how intrinsic sound is to the human brain. As he explains, “I think that what’s so powerful about music and branding, is that it’s subconscious, it’s innate response to how our brains process sound on a level that can’t be reached by other sensory

modalities.” Brad follows up to ask Jeanna about sonic branding, and how it goes beyond licensed music and jingles to the very heart of a company’s sound, from the quality of a smart speaker to the pitch and tone of a phone prompt.

Musical Motivation

Joe, a voice-over artist and singer, takes the stage next and reminds us all of the classic three-note jingle “By Mennan,” noting how effectively it breaks the established wisdom of commercial audio to make a memorable impression. “I find it fascinating,” he says, “that it’s a marriage of art and science to be able to twist people’s neurons so that this earworm gets in there.” Jack and Jeanna point out that a successful audio brand motivates its audience, compelling us to take action, and Shelley, a fellow singer and voice actor, points out the very visible changes in brain activity that occur when we react to audio cues, whether it’s a catchy melody or a familiar voice.

Episode Summary

Jeanna and Lauri describe the evocative power of sound
Jack and Shez share their perspective on audio branding
Steve and Cornelius discuss marketing gaps
Alex and Brad take the stage with opening questions
Joe and Shelley follow up with branding insights

Next week the Clubhouse chat continues as our guests talk about how sound can promote particular themes, the challenge of expressing identity through audio, and how taking a more personal approach to sound can help clients better appreciate sonic branding.

Get your complimentary mini e-book and learn how to create your personalized and branded audio branding strategy with my Top Five Tips for Implementing an Intentional Audio Strategy.

Please leave the Audio Branding Podcast a written review or a spoken review so others can find the show on their favorite podcast player!

This interview episode was very skillfully made to sound beautiful by the talented Humberto Franco.

Connect with the Panelists:

Jeanna Isham’s website: https://www.dreamrproductions.com/

Shez Merha’s website: https://the194group.com/

Cornelius Ringe’s website: https://www.wesound.de/en/

Steve Keller’s website: https://www.sxmmedia.com/

Connect with Lauri Domnic on LinkedIn: https://fi.linkedin.com/in/lauridomnick

Jack Monson’s website: https://www.socialgeekradio.com/

The Power of Sound club on Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/club/the-power-of-sound

The Voice of Tomorrow: An Interview With Dr. Ahmed Bouzid – Part 2

January 12, 2022 by Jodi Krangle

“As human beings, we like to praise others that we believe are doing a great job. The thing is to make the ask easy to answer. So if you say ‘can you record a one-minute video,’ they would do it – I’m sure they would all do it – but it would be heavier. The lighting has to be good, you cannot have a bad hair day, and so on, whereas in voice you just need to make sure that your voice is okay.” — Dr. Ahmed Bouzid

In this episode, we continue my interview with Dr. Ahmed Bouzid, renowned speech technologist and Witlingo founder and CEO, as we talk about the Open Voice Network and the future of audio social media.

As always, if you have any questions for my guest, you’re welcome to reach out through the links in the show notes. If you have questions for me, just visit audiobrandingpodcast.com where you’ll find all sorts of ways to get in touch. Plus, subscribing to the newsletter (on the audiobrandingpodcast.com webpage) will let you know when the new podcasts are available.

Speaking Your Knowledge

We begin the second half of the interview by talking about how Witlingo and internet audio can help democratize creativity, allowing people who might shy away from posting videos and pursuing more restrictive forms of audio expression to nonetheless find their voice in online audio communities. As Dr. Bouzid puts it, “there are lots and lots of people who have lots and lots of knowledge, and the best way for them to share that knowledge is just to speak it.”

The Social Audio Thing

Our discussion focuses on social audio apps as well at the nonprofit Open Voice Network, the ethics of voice AI and social audio, and the power of major companies like Twitter and Facebook to shape the industry. “This social audio thing, I don’t think we understand it really that much right now. I think we have the basics of it, but I think where it’s going to go and what it’s going to be in a year or two, five years, I don’t think we really know right now.”

Finding Your Voice Online

“I think there should be mechanisms,” Dr. Bouzid says as we talk about the future of social audio. “It cannot be left to these private companies to dictate things that have massive consequences.” He goes on to tell us about his work with Witlingo and the versatility it’ll give users, allowing fans and creators to share content and feedback, and the interview wraps up on a lighter note as we discover a somewhat surprising hobby that we happen to have in common.

Episode Summary

Witlingo and the ease of social audio
The ethics and dangers of voice AI
The challenge of an open audio future
How Witlingo can bring users together

Get your complimentary mini e-book and learn how to create your personalized and branded audio branding strategy with my Top Five Tips for Implementing an Intentional Audio Strategy.

Please leave the Audio Branding Podcast a written review or a spoken review so others can find the show on their favorite podcast player!

This interview episode was very skillfully made to sound beautiful by the talented Humberto Franco.

Connect with Dr. Ahmed Bouzid

Witlingo: https://witlingo.com/

The Fish & the Bird: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ahmedbouzid_voicefirst-sonic-sonicmarketing-activity-6818992542961438721-2Dvl

Follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/didou/

Connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmedbouzid/

The Power of Podcasting – Online Resources

November 3, 2021 by Jodi Krangle

It’s hard to believe it’s been almost two years since the very first episode of Audio Branding. We’ve featured over forty exciting guests since the show started and talked about everything from audio branding (imagine that) and healing harmonies to machine learning and the sounds of the planets and stars. In this episode, we’ll take a look at podcasting itself and some of the tools I use for my show that might be helpful to anyone thinking of starting their own podcast.

Just so you know, some of the links I’ll be sharing are affiliate links, but you’re welcome to check out the websites without my affiliate codes, if you prefer. Either way, they’re a good place to start when it comes to creating your podcast empire.

With over a hundred million people in the U.S. alone listening to podcasts just last year, plus over twelve million in the U.K. and thirteen million in Canada, the audience and market influence of podcasting is only getting bigger. More than half of the people listening to digital audio, now listen to podcasts, and that audience is more attentive than ever before: podcast listeners devote on average thirty percent of their listening time to podcasts.

If you have a brand, a product, or even just a message that you want to share with the world, podcasting is becoming one of the most effective ways to reach your audience. It fits into all the corners of your multitasking life because you can listen while you’re taking a walk, driving to work, washing the dishes, whatever. But there are some basic things you need to consider when you’re ready to put your podcast out there. For instance, where do you start when it comes to hosting your podcast? There are all sorts of options, and my show uses Captivate.fm for its hosting services.

Not only do they offer marketing information on the site for promoting your podcast (Mark Asquith and his team really share some stellar information), they charge by the number of downloads per month rather than the number of podcasts. While a lot of other hosts charge per podcast, you can have as many as you like on Captivate, which can really come in handy if you ever want to start a new podcast while keeping your old podcast’s episodes archived. You can also create podcasting networks and even share ads within that network – an option that previously has only been available for content creators with very deep pockets. I highly recommended them.

Of course, there’s also the matter of recording your interviews, especially if you’re working on the go or, like me, you’re often interviewing guests from all over the world. Cloud-based audio software and interview services have come a long way just over the past few years, and the interviews on my show are recorded using Squadcast.fm, a browser-based remote service with stellar audio quality that can host up to four people in a session.

Each speaker’s audio track is separated into a high quality .wav file, as long as you make sure echo cancellation is turned off (and to make that work, everyone involved, needs to be wearing headphones – just so you know!). The service also just added video recording this year. My link to them comes with a free seven-day trial.

Once you have your podcast recorded and hosted, you’ll probably want a website for it, not to mention an app for people listening on their mobile devices. Why not? There are quite a few different ways to go for hosting web and app content, but this show uses SupaPass.com since it specializes in podcasts. It offers a free trial too, and a free package for building a website if you’re just starting out.

Another online tool I’ve found helpful is MyPodcastReviews.com, for collecting and organizing podcast reviews from all over the web. As part of the service, it even allows you to provide one link for people to leave reviews, called LoveThePodcast.com – which automatically displays only those options that work on your potential reviewer’s device, whatever that happens to be. This tool comes with a 14-day free trial (like others), along with a few different annual packages.

You might also want to let your listeners post voice reviews, ask questions or make comments on your podcast, with a super simple way of recording their short audio snippet – kind of like leaving a voice mail. There are several use cases for a service that I use called Witlingo (at Witlingo.com) – and here’s a link to a page that demonstrates those use cases. I’ve used it for podcast testimonials, feedback, and for questions and comments people might have after I’ve talked about something in a Clubhouse room (which is a companion to my podcast and happens on Wednesdays at 2pm Eastern in a Club called The Power of Sound. Since my podcast is released Wednesday mornings, it makes sense to have our discussions then). They have a free version (though it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles of the paid version) – and it’s well worth trying out. If you do decide to pay for the service, Witlingo has very kindly allowed me to offer you a 25% discount off your first year, if you put JODI in the subject header of your form or email when you contact them.

That may cover the big services – recording, hosting, distributing, reviewing and getting feedback on your podcast – but there are a ton of online tools that can help smooth out the bumps along the way.

Google Forms, not to be confused with Google Docs, is a free service for creating listener surveys and I also use it as an intake form for my guests, then forwarding automatically to Calendly so that they can book in their time for the actual interview. Calendly also offers a free option for setting up online meetings of any kind. Their links are also on my blog:

There are professional services out there for finding guests, some more expensive than others, but you can save yourself thousands of dollars if you do it yourself. Some of the sites I use are podmatch.com, matchmaker.fm, ThePodcastCollaborative.com, PodcastDirectory.com, and Podbooker.com. You can use them to find guests and to appear as a guest on other podcasts, which is a great way to help build your audience while offering helpful and engaging content for their show. It really is a win-win situation for both the guests and their hosts.

The podcasting industry’s bigger than it’s ever been, and it’s growing faster each year: it’s estimated that more than 160 million people will be listening by 2023, just two more years. No matter what audience you’re looking for, it’s out there. These online tools can be a great way to get started, but the most important step is simply taking the first one – and there’s never been a better time.

Would you consider giving this podcast an honest review? You can do that here: https://lovethepodcast.com/audiobranding. And if you like what you hear (and read!) – please do share it with anyone you think might be interested. Thanks so much!

And if you’re interested in crafting an audio brand for your business, why not check out my FREE download – Top 5 Tips For Implementing An Intentional Audio Strategy at https://voiceoversandvocals.com/audio-branding-strategy/

Jodi Krangle

In the Clubhouse: The Power of Voice & Communication with Dan Friedman – Part 2

In the Clubhouse: The Power of Voice & Communication with Dan Friedman – Part 1

The Voice of Tomorrow: An Interview With Dr. Ahmed Bouzid – Part 2

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